The God Debate II: Harris vs. Craig

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The second annual God Debate features atheist neuroscientist Sam Harris and Evangelical Christian apologist William Lane Craig as they debate the topic: "Is Good From God?" The debate was sponsored in large part by the Notre Dame College of Arts and Letters: The Henkels Lecturer Series, The Center for Philosophy of Religion and the Institute for Scholarship in the Liberal Arts.

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WinTrain
WinTrain 3 цагийн өмнө
Morals exist because in the beginning, the higher ups scared the civilization into the belief there was a hell and a heaven and had brainwashed people into morals. Whether god exists or not, we have morals due to brainwashing but since we are human we can reason and understand that there is evil and people can do bad things. This does not take god. Even animals know good and bad and can tell bad is happening. If you hit a dogs owner, the dog will attack you. This does not involve god.
Caleb Comeaux
Caleb Comeaux 3 цагийн өмнө
Interesting how Harris never responds to Craig's questions/statements even though Craig talks directly to him. Existing in a bubble.
Dyslogix
Dyslogix 11 цагийн өмнө
You continue to live life in fear of a possible all loving god ( that will throw you in the fire if you don't love him ... cough.. insecure much? ), and I'll continue to live my life to the fullest regardless of what happens at the end of it. My parents always taught me, that if someone is willing to ruin your life because you won't give them 100% of your love and attention, you treat that relationship like the toxic relationship it is, and get out as soon as possible. I'm not afraid of your god/gods.
Vetto Sanchez
Vetto Sanchez 11 цагийн өмнө
God doesn’t love white people
Brenno Eustace
Brenno Eustace 13 цагийн өмнө
It irrelevant what Harris has to say....
Luis Sanchez
Luis Sanchez 13 цагийн өмнө
This video has come up repeatedly in my feed.
Matt Dugas
Matt Dugas 13 цагийн өмнө
Is to find God, is to find Family? If Mother’s Earth 🌏, who’s your Daddy!?
Jack Hamilton
Jack Hamilton 13 цагийн өмнө
Hearing the word of JESUS CHRIST, reflecting on it , praying, and being baptized into it will grant you the Holy Spirit of Truth. It’s your personal bond. Just as H2O is not water without those 2 atoms Neither can a human being overcome the electrical, magnetic, gravitational forces when your Soul is no longer in the body unless you are in JESUS CHRIST It is YOUR CHOICE. Without JESUS CHRIST. Your Soul will be too weak and be consumed by those forces and you will end up as a source of energy in the center of the earth The opposite is true. “Glom” onto JESUS CHRIST and your Soul will be powerful enough to overcome those forces and you will instantly travel to a higher dimension. The ancients distinguished both as Heaven and hell Salvation is free. Therefore go read the Gospels. It talks about this.
English Jona
English Jona 14 цагийн өмнө
HHahahahaha You’re at university debate in a loaded question, you can become a god, the creator is the creator tho, I AM I AM 😉👌🏾👌🏾😂 CLEVER DUNCES
Je-Nas
Je-Nas 14 цагийн өмнө
I’m an atheist, otherwise a fan of Sam Harris and find some arguments of Craig just vacuous (“if evil exists, this proves God exists” - just because he is counting as true his contention that only God can ground morality, which is one of the very things being disputed), BUT the truth here is that Sam Harris just doesn’t engage in the actual debate and instead goes on to criticize Craig’s overall catholicism, which just isn’t the thing being debated. That’s very frustrating, even for me who mostly agrees with Harris’ (ill placed) criticism. On the other hand, Craig tries his best to maintain the debate on point, and he is good at it, but unfortunately Harris just doesn’t cooperate. I don’t even care that I fully disagree with Craig, he’s by far the best (indeed the only) debater here.
peter kerruish
peter kerruish 16 цагийн өмнө
Sam is intelligent- His opponent is not!!!.
Michael Friedland
Michael Friedland 16 цагийн өмнө
I’m at 26 minutes and haven’t heard Harris yet. I’m predicting he will do what he always does: make some jokes, obfuscate through the use large words, apply circular reasoning, declare victory and depart the field.
Jeffrey Cohen
Jeffrey Cohen 17 цагийн өмнө
Sam Harris is a wind bag narcissist. His ilk are the misery society must eviscerate.
Andrew Hampson
Andrew Hampson 18 цагийн өмнө
Hail Satan
KT Together
KT Together 18 цагийн өмнө
I heard him saying if a lot but God does exist! I've seen the signs and proof in my life! I've been blessed my whole life so there shouldn't be an if, there should be true understanding and believing!
Oldtinear
Oldtinear 16 цагийн өмнө
29,000 children suffer and die every day, but YOU are blessed. That is all the evidence you need that a loving God exists? Sorry, does not work for me!
Jim Connolly
Jim Connolly 17 цагийн өмнө
If someone hasn't been blessed, let's say a starving child in Africa, does that mean god doesn't exist?
Kyle Lambert
Kyle Lambert 18 цагийн өмнө
Why wear a wedding ring, a symbol of a covenant with god and your wife? if you dont believe in god?
Oldtinear
Oldtinear 16 цагийн өмнө
Many people marry at secular ceremonies. Nothing to do with any god.
Jim Connolly
Jim Connolly 17 цагийн өмнө
Wedding rings can be traced to ancient Rome and Greece. They're not necessarily connected to the Christian god. Also, there's cultural reasons.
Rick Carter
Rick Carter 19 цагийн өмнө
*Ben Stiller debates David Lee Roth!* spoiler alert: David Lee Roth wins!
GhostWolf
GhostWolf 10 цагийн өмнө
Harris won
Kitskitt
Kitskitt 20 цагийн өмнө
One day, we'll all find out who was right. "I would rather live as if God exists, and be wrong, than to live like He doesn't exist and be wrong." Pray for a new heart, ask for wisdom, seek the God of the Holy Bible. REENT FROM ALL SIN! GREED, LUST, HATE, SLOTH, ANGER! GET RID OF IT! REPENT SINNERS! Jesus is coming soon.
Bernardito pomar
Bernardito pomar 16 цагийн өмнө
well said kitt
Kamal Ramdass
Kamal Ramdass 20 цагийн өмнө
Utube nor any religions holies,college university professors ect.ect.piping God God,knows the way back to ones good hood...THE CUE/KEY is in the kjvb Bible gospel of John in vedas tora ect.ect.parlell spiritual DEAN...ironically few understand what they are reading...
A Disciple of Jesus Christ
A Disciple of Jesus Christ 21 цагийн өмнө
Romans Chapter 1:18-32! Boom no debate, argument over! All are born with the Knowledge of God and suppress it with their wickedness! This debate is foolishness on both sides, all have fallen short of the Glory of God! Stop trying to sound so smart! Let the man who thinks he knows something, know that he knows NOTHING!
Oldtinear
Oldtinear 13 цагийн өмнө
'Let the man who thinks he knows something, know that he knows NOTHING!' Err... but YOU think you know something!
Roman Ariri
Roman Ariri 23 цагийн өмнө
Humanity are in real trouble. To argue that the God who created them does not exist, the evidence of how lost mankind really is on this earth. It also, shows how difficult it is to save the souls of these people. It tells us how far humanity has fallen. God told me recently that "majority of mankind lives in Darkness, and they think there is life in Darkness" quote ,and unquote. Which means majority of mankind has been deceived by Satan to think that God those not exist and has made mankind to worship Satan the natural enemy of mankind on earth, instead of worshiping God who created them and give mankind life. Because of this majority of mankind living in Darkness, separated from God where live comes. God showed me in a vision where thousands of souls of mankind dropping into hell, daily. Mankind is dying and going to hell. It is a frightening sight. Majority of mankind lives in Darkness, the home of Satan where life does not exist, where life is totally meaningless. God has spoken to me in real life as his servant, so I know God exist. I have seen the manifestations of Satan on earth as a man of God. So, I know Satan exist. This world is ruled by two spiritual kingdoms: the kingdom of God, heaven on earth. And the kingdom of Darkness, where mankind languish without without God. Where mankind is ruled by evils spirits that put their lives and their souls are in satanic bondage. if they die there, their souls will descend to hell under the ground for condemnation in hell fire. These secret of life has been revealed to me as a man of God. Those who fail to understand this truth are already condemned. God has sent me to warn all mankind on earth. God revealed to me that End Time is coming to the world. Apostle R.A.
Oldtinear
Oldtinear 13 цагийн өмнө
'God told me recently that "majority of mankind lives in Darkness, and they think there is life in Darkness" quote . The convention is that you can speak to God, and it is just praying. But if God appears to talk to you, then you have lost your mind.
Pixles Dumas
Pixles Dumas Өдрийн өмнө
One Nation under Satan was not in your forefathers plans. God's plan goes back to Myrtle which you know as Esther in the bible. A nation under God would not replace Amen with a woman.Nancy wearing a cult dress for impeachment to bring in a party which supports the murder of babies and the irradication of life as intended in creation by God is not part of the Spirit supported by George Washington with the Appeal To Heaven Flag.America is History and Jesus is History But History is alive in Jesus and the message today for Democrats and associates is Repent & Resign
James Brockington Jr
James Brockington Jr Өдрийн өмнө
Dam demons you all will burn
Adil Ahmed
Adil Ahmed Өдрийн өмнө
Sam Harris reminds me of Ben Stiller lool. Does anyone see it?
Adil Ahmed
Adil Ahmed 2 цагийн өмнө
@WinTrain them too 😂
WinTrain
WinTrain 2 цагийн өмнө
I see Seth green or Scotty from Austin powers.
drummerboy737
drummerboy737 Өдрийн өмнө
1:08:00 can anyone show me where the God of Israel recommended burying children under the foundations of buildings to "stop angry gods"?
Gabino Molina
Gabino Molina 10 цагийн өмнө
Right. Theres alot of things Harris would claim when he doesnt even know, if he wanted to claim such things and as "intelligent" as he is I would assume he would have actually memorized the bible to be able to make any kind of arguments instead of just 2 or 3 scriptures that when you continue reading obviously are not what he said. But hes atheist so I'm sure he googled those scriptures 😂
Phyl M
Phyl M Өдрийн өмнө
how boring. People prattle on about god this and god that as if IT is a totally separate entity from themselves, not realising that they are that which they prattle on about. Every individual soul upon earth are that-- divine beings No one No thing can take away your divinity from you, ever!
Jim Connolly
Jim Connolly 17 цагийн өмнө
Now, if only you could prove that!
Kyle Nugent
Kyle Nugent Өдрийн өмнө
The truth is that the majority of christians have little to know real knowledge of the bible. Besides what someone else has told them through preachers, priests, decons ect. ofetc. churches. I found that no matter what church I went to in search of truth. Almost every church had its own different views and teachings of the bible. To be quite honest and clear. I found that people bend and manipulate scripture to suit they're own lifestyle. Which was a huge problem for me. I started to wonder even as a child. What I had read and studied from multiple translations of the Bible differed so much from what was being taught. For example somehow Jesus Christ is worshipped and believed to be the Omega. The majority have no knowledge of who God is or what his true name even is in the original texts. The father of Jesus... seems he disappeared from the pages. Especially since his name was replaced by Lord. The list of evidence showing that the bible was and still is being written by superstitious men is happening right in front of us. But no one ever wants to accept the truth. This world is based upon false reality and lies. Be a skeptic, think independently and put yourself on the side of the majority. Study, Observe and take what you learn from personal experiences. That's the best way to find truth in this crazy world.
Silvério Rebelo
Silvério Rebelo 14 цагийн өмнө
I don't think you are truly willing to find the true teaching entrusted by the Lord to his Church - you seem to prefer to go around and around, using the Bible as an excuse for always having some criticism against historical Christianity...
Raddish Raddish
Raddish Raddish Өдрийн өмнө
I would like to say how fascinating. I did hear that psychopaths live in trailer parks, why not mansions? I also heard alot about science. Isn't that the tried and true standard to all questions? Lol well there's alot to say about science ..infallible, the plum line, lol it's not! Just one example of that is this last year...the scientist don't even agree with each other. Consensus has not been 100 % ,. NOT to mention that one day science says this and the next day it says that...rinse and repeat. But somehow this man has an answer for morals right/ wrong ,and how they came to be. Truely fascinating .
Brian Beam
Brian Beam Өдрийн өмнө
The man in the logic sense. As men' see logic has some points however he knows nothing at all of spiritual matters. Now well Evolution as Darwin says it is definitely nothing let's say that it is we all just evolved I have nothing to make this multi complex amazing little planet in the middle of nowhere. All that uncatchable mathematics difficulty that is impossible there's one thing that isn't possible. Consciousness has to have a conscious creator it cannot evolve. Just like when you add nothing to nothing and you still get nothing. I am also known as he is it's bringing his kingdom to this world soon to be ruled by his son. And as far as all this nonsense that science cause we we got here. They are without excuse look at this creation that you're in he needs a more evidence of who he is cuz I tell you one thing every scientific theory one day prove girl if it is in a fact you will not prove him wrong his kingdom is coming and it's going to hurt for a while so get ready
Oldtinear
Oldtinear Өдрийн өмнө
'Consciousness has to have a conscious creator' Your God character is conscious. So who created him? Your argument is in pieces on the floor.
SCI X
SCI X Өдрийн өмнө
Harris spoke very well and so did dr craig. But this debate i think harris won
Real2468
Real2468 Өдрийн өмнө
Dont let the devil fool you, the devil only comes to kill, steal and destroy. God is good. Saddly poeple go to God when something bad happens to them and say its his fault, but clearlly they are not seeing the full picture there is a enemy that hates humanity with all his will. Dont rely on your understanding, but Gods. May God bless you.
vZimzyy
vZimzyy 29 минутын өмнө
@Jim Connolly and satan isnt leading billions into eternal damnation with him🤔
Jim Connolly
Jim Connolly 17 цагийн өмнө
God killed millions of innocent people in the bible. Satan killed about 10. Maybe we're worshipping the wrong being!
Real2468
Real2468 Өдрийн өмнө
@Oldtinear m8 God is Loving, wise, mercyfull, and loving. Believe it or not God loves you more than you can imagine, he does not want your money, he wants you. John 3:16 For so God Loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that who so ever believed in him shall not parish but have everlasting Life. May God bless you.
Oldtinear
Oldtinear Өдрийн өмнө
'the devil only comes to kill, steal and destroy.' So why does your God character not sort him out? What a feeble God you worship!
jan edwards
jan edwards Өдрийн өмнө
Beginning off putting
George M
George M Өдрийн өмнө
Atheist. So called atheists are merely people who won't acknowledge God's existence. - the fool says in his heart, "there is no God".... Palms 14:1. Some people want "evidence" of God's existence so they'll believe. They keep on debating with believers hoping they'll find someone who will give them the evidence they are looking for. The problem for them though is that God, their creator, is spirit, and so are we. God reveals Himself to us in spirit and through all creation. That "evidence" is what God considers sufficient. And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. Genesis 2:7 KJV Then the dust will return to the earth as it was, And the spirit will return to God who gave it. Ecclesiastes 12:7 NKJV
Damon Hicks
Damon Hicks 19 цагийн өмнө
Right off the bat, you are proving that you know nothing of atheism. I am an atheist and will acknowledge that there are many gods that exist. Allah, Zeus, Baphomet, the list goes on and on, they are fictitious beings created by men. I simply don't believe that there is any one of them that withstand reasonable scrutiny for actually existing when you study all the powers attributed to them and the evil done in their names. We have first-hand accounts from people today that say they were abducted by aliens and medically examined and probed and they have wounds that collaborate the story and they show the crop circles that they make and thousands of people report nearly identical features and ships. But no sane person believes them even though there is more possibility of aliens than god and all his exploits. 2 thousand years ago it would be monumentally easy to trick an entire population into believing in miracles because they were uneducated masses for the most part and it was en vogue back then to follow prophets and witness miracles just as today with all these faith healers and seed prosperity gospels. there were hundreds if not thousands of accounts written down in biblical times of conflicting deities and all the wealthy priests got together and decided which books become the bible with a raise of the hand even if they had never completely read that scripture which is why there are so many contradictions. anyone who didn't agree was killed or banished so their version of religion wouldn't take hold and compete with Christianity.
Lawrence Williams
Lawrence Williams Өдрийн өмнө
GOD ONLY REVEALS HIMSELF TO THE HUMBLE NOT THE PROUD BECOME OVERCOMERS THROUGH HIS HOLY SPIRIT TEACHERS ALL THINGS TO THOSE WHO LOVE HIM LEAN NOT ON YOUR OWN UNDERSTANDING GODS WAYS ARE NOT OURS WAYS
Reno Cicchi
Reno Cicchi Өдрийн өмнө
Craig literally admitted that he defines god as good. He only hid it behind another assumption that a being that is powerful is worthy of worship, and one that is worshiped must be good. Its insane that people actually find Craig convincing. And he has not once shown he understood how secular humanism works and how we can make objective moves toward subjective goals.
Reno Cicchi
Reno Cicchi Өдрийн өмнө
@SCI X exactly. This single point breaks down Craig's entire argument
SCI X
SCI X Өдрийн өмнө
Harris in his first rebuttal destroyed abhrahamic religions
Bobby-Joe Smith
Bobby-Joe Smith Өдрийн өмнө
youtube really pushes this video on every person, all the time.
Damon Hicks
Damon Hicks 9 цагийн өмнө
@jeffrey shewmake It was a long process, When I was 6 I was curious about sex and had a homosexual(oral) encounter with my best friend and he ended up feeling guilty about it and confessed to our priest that's when the sexual abuse started by a priest from age 7-9 he told me if I told anyone that my parents would find out about my encounter with my friend and I would never be able to see him again. But I stayed in the church. I grew up got married to a Christian woman that always used god to shame me into compliance and weaponized sex for control. I did 2 tours in Fallujah Iraq and saw and did horrible things that made me doubt there was an omniscient benevolent creator overseeing this world. when I got back from combat I was diagnosed with ptsd and started counseling with my pastor who told me all my issues were due to sin in my life and told me to tithe more to let god work in my life. I told him I was on a fixed income and couldn't give more right now and he told me that I should give up my service dog that the semper fi foundation got me. He said if you cant afford to pay god you shouldn't be feeding pets. So I got rid of my dog (worst decision of my life) and tithed more but without my dog my stress was higher and I ended up trying to kill myself but my wife and the cops intervened and I was committed to a hospital (5k in doctor bills I couldn't afford) and spent 2 weeks tied to a bed then another 2 weeks under supervision. During that time I had a lot of time to think about what my problems stemmed from and I realized that I was a good person with a bad situation that was made worse by guilt from god over my sexuality, I thought he was going to send me to hell for that and the lives I took in Iraq and I just wanted to end my life and face judgment. What point is there living when you're convinced hell awaits and you live in constant pain from injuries sustained in Iraq and your wife has refused you sex for 10 years, not even a kind word or soft embrace. I gave up on god and church and my situation and stress improved 100 fold. I stopped feeling this overwhelming guilt and shame for being who I was born to be; not having to hide my affection for fear of being shamed. I still have PTSD but I am seeking treatment through the VA and have been feeling way better even though the police took my guns and I still have thousands of dollars of medical bills, I feel that I can cope with the world now that I don't feel this angry judgmental god of eternal torture looking over my shoulder which to me proves that he isn't real and was just in my head. When I told my pastor I was leaving religion and god behind he said that god would make my life miserable till I came crawling back to him but it has been just the opposite, I can finally live my life in peace with some semblance of happiness. Now if I could only convince my wife to get a divorce but she said she would fight it and I cant afford a contested divorce cause I cant afford to pay for 2 sets of lawyers (mine and my wife) because she thinks god wont allow divorce and a loveless toxic relationship is better for her than going back home and living with her abusive father that molested her as a kid. So right now I am stuck in limbo but feeling way better than I ever did.
rudy rodriguez
rudy rodriguez 9 цагийн өмнө
@Damon Hicks we bear His personality ( God ); intelec, feelings and will so use your brains, God had communicated His Will through His messengers and wrote it so if we know how to read and understand the message then we are able to analized and reazon the Will of God and His will that you may be safe and come to the knowledge of the Truth 1 Timothy 2:3-5 so you just have to ask Him from your heart.
jeffrey shewmake
jeffrey shewmake 10 цагийн өмнө
@Damon Hicks may I ask what changed in you?
Damon Hicks
Damon Hicks 20 цагийн өмнө
@Liam Hyland And the first time I watched this I was a Christian and now I am an atheist.
Liam Hyland
Liam Hyland Өдрийн өмнө
It’s funny, the first time I watched this I was a hardcore atheist. Now all these years later I’m watching this as a Christian
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STEVEYREY
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If-this-is-supposed-to-be an-intligent-discussion.... was-Paul-an-Apostle--or-a-Saint? hey, dude...I-am=asking-you!!@!!!!!!
Tim Barnes
Tim Barnes Өдрийн өмнө
Seems to me that the atheist believes there's a God or he wouldn't harbor so much resentment toward Him
XoPURExLUCKoX
XoPURExLUCKoX Өдрийн өмнө
You'd be incorrect. I don't know of any atheists that are resentful toward a God, but they may exist I suppose. In truth we are more likely to be resentful to the Christian doctrine, and the harm we believe it causes.
Ronald Douglass
Ronald Douglass Өдрийн өмнө
"GOD", doesn't NEED humankind, mankind, man, woman, to speak for Nature, Earth, the Planet... beyond the Atmosphere!
Dina Moriarty
Dina Moriarty Өдрийн өмнө
I wish I could have debated Hariis! He has no idea what he is even talking about! He uses hasty generalizations and strawman arguments to make false statements that have nothing to do what the Bible says. SMH!!
Oldtinear
Oldtinear Өдрийн өмнө
'I wish I could have debated Hariis! He uses strawman arguments' Come on, then. Name one of these 'strawman arguments' and show us how you would have debated against him.
Shraddha Shrestha
Shraddha Shrestha 2 өдрийн өмнө
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stephen bishop
stephen bishop 2 өдрийн өмнө
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IZ ETUOGYEL
IZ ETUOGYEL 2 өдрийн өмнө
Mr Harris is off topic. He is just attacking religions without addressing the subject of this debate which is not whether religion is good or bad but whether GOOD AND EVIL is given by God or natural selection. On the subject of moral responsability he should read marquis de Sad " Salo ou Les 120 jours de sodome" to understand what it means to have no God to lead morality. And free will that God gives to Man gives him also the possibility to choose between Good and Evil.
Jim Connolly
Jim Connolly 17 цагийн өмнө
Or read Leviticus or exodus to understand what it means to have a god to lead morality.
Damon Hicks
Damon Hicks 19 цагийн өмнө
Harris is showing how evil comes from God and makes good people bad and the few "good" things in the bible are irrelevant in light of the evil it allows. Craig just kept moving the goalpost and said god is worthy of worship because of his moral worth (ignoring the fact that the bible is full of justified murder, rape, infanticide, etc in gods name, how is that praiseworthy?) but I and many atheists get argued to death with "don't you want to avoid hell?" This is after we point out all the evil done in his name and many man-made laws and legal codes are superior to the bible for human wellbeing.
Miss Cakes
Miss Cakes 2 өдрийн өмнө
Home run! Bravo! William Lane 🕊
Miss Cakes
Miss Cakes 2 өдрийн өмнө
Sam Harris truly a lost man. The good doctor is in need of sincere prayers.
Wicek Wickowski
Wicek Wickowski Өдрийн өмнө
Sam Harris truly a lost man? Oh no! This is a declared enemy of God. He himself performed a disgusting act of apostasy in the church he went to. He voluntarily sold his soul to the devil!
Just An Alien
Just An Alien 2 өдрийн өмнө
The pocket of human logic is too small to comprehend God, like we can't assume how 4d realm looklikes ...
Eric Jones
Eric Jones Цагийн өмнө
@JuicyFTW Right on. I'm not disagreeing with that. Only using deductive reasoning to conclude that if there are conscious 4d beings, we wouldn't know about each other. I agree they'd be better at conceptualizing us than we would of them.
JuicyFTW
JuicyFTW Цагийн өмнө
@Eric Jones we can’t , 3D beings are so used to looking for a 3D explanation for things out of our dimension. Science only makes sense within our 3D dimension. Thinks like death can’t be grasped or known by the human mind. That’s why faith or belief replaces science when it comes to things out of our dimension i.e 4d and 2d
Eric Jones
Eric Jones 3 цагийн өмнө
Why would I believe that if we as 3d beings can't interact with 2d beings?
JuicyFTW
JuicyFTW 5 цагийн өмнө
@Anthony Lombardo watch a video of what a 4d shape is then you’ll understand why they can’t . I’ll drop a link
Anthony Lombardo
Anthony Lombardo 5 цагийн өмнө
@Eric Jones that's not ture. Of course interdimensional beings would be able to interact with us.
Reint-Jan Rammelaere
Reint-Jan Rammelaere 2 өдрийн өмнө
Sam Harris is simply making emotional appeals in his rebuttals. Very poor use of reason and sound arguments, not to mention a misunderstanding of Christian faith and theology. Craig did a good job explaining the need for a Moral Lawgiver, God, to give moral laws. He's arguing for the actual existence and basis for moral laws, while Harris doesn't address this. But yet again, the style of debate wasn't the most effective, and Harris wasn't even on topic most of the time, and clearly felt embarrassed.
Oldtinear
Oldtinear Өдрийн өмнө
@Reint-Jan Rammelaere 'Maximally great'? ROFL! Maximally great smelliness? MG viciousness? MG stupidity? The argument is nonsense - a logical sop to the gullible. To take one aspect of my argument - people interpret biblical text differently - that is why there are thousands of sects/denominations, And the thing is, there is no way of determining which interpretation is 'truer' in any sense. There is no test which can be done. The differences are unresolvable. Craig's subjective interpretation is just one of many. It is not objective.
Reint-Jan Rammelaere
Reint-Jan Rammelaere Өдрийн өмнө
@Oldtinear yeah, you didn't have an argument. It was just a bunch of statements without valid proof, or evidence. If you want proof for God's existence, look into the cosmological, teleological, moral and ontological arguments for His existence. Especially the one for morality, which explains objective morals existing, and needing a divine, transcendent Mind, the Maximally Great Being as Anselm declares, God, as the Moral Law Giver for objective morality. I'm not gonna write an essay in the comment's section for you to explain my reasoning, or to 'address your arguments', and I'd restate everything I've said previously. That's what I've got to say, thank you.
Oldtinear
Oldtinear 2 өдрийн өмнө
@Reint-Jan Rammelaere 'You're presenting topic in your argument which are outside of this debate, ' Nonsense, Craig proposed that the existence of a God gave an objective basis for morality. I have shown that not to be true. You refuse to address my arguments.
Reint-Jan Rammelaere
Reint-Jan Rammelaere 2 өдрийн өмнө
@Oldtinear No, that's exactly what I said. You need to watch his portion of the debate again. I understand your post. You're presenting topic in your argument which are outside of this debate, the premises of your argument which are flawed. Research the historicity of the NT, authorship, writing of the Bible, resurrection, etc.
Oldtinear
Oldtinear 2 өдрийн өмнө
@Reint-Jan Rammelaere I'd suggest reading my reply again. Even if a God exists and even if Jesus is the son of God, all the remaining subjective stages in Craig's beliefs still obtain. As for Craig's argument, detail it and I will show it is flawed.
ALLAHU AKBAR MEANS GOD IS THE GREATEST
ALLAHU AKBAR MEANS GOD IS THE GREATEST 2 өдрийн өмнө
Dr Zakir Naik beautifully explains that Prophet Jesus PBUH was not crucified.....
cody r
cody r Өдрийн өмнө
Naw man he is the son of God read the New Testament you will see . Even In the Old Testament you can see that Jesus is the son of God though prophecies . I’ll send you a video link
DirtyDonz21
DirtyDonz21 2 өдрийн өмнө
All I know is that I don't know enough to believe that a God or something isn't possible. We might have been created to evolve. Heck the way science is moving they'll be able to create pretty much the perfect being by selecting the best genes. It could be the next step in our evolution. Imagine a world where everyone was fit, lived 100+ years and was genius.
Papillon
Papillon Өдрийн өмнө
remember time space and matter all have to come into each other at the same time science proves that and also proves God made the universe. Genesis 1-14 Then God said, “Let there be lights. Glory to the True living God Jesus Christ!
Tyreese OFF huron
Tyreese OFF huron 2 өдрийн өмнө
wait so is the church guy saying god only exist in places that have moral values because most of the world doesn't operate like that. most of the world is the strong take the weak suffer.
Abbey Tarson
Abbey Tarson 2 өдрийн өмнө
Dr Craig, was excellent!!!
Jackson stiles
Jackson stiles 2 өдрийн өмнө
How is the EXper going longer or slower than projected? Common sense yet?
Jackson stiles
Jackson stiles 2 өдрийн өмнө
God will have the Victory! Christ declared Victory and it will be done! .M. .L. .E. He has already Claimed it and stamped it before square C.
Chris Scott
Chris Scott 2 өдрийн өмнө
9:47 into the video Me: wait I didn’t click on this
Marty Breeden
Marty Breeden 2 өдрийн өмнө
To be an atheist, you have to subscribe to the scientific IMPOSSIBILITY that nothing created EVERYTHING!
Oldtinear
Oldtinear 2 өдрийн өмнө
Not true. I don't. The energy/matter of the universe is here now. If you have any evidence that it once did not exist, then present it.
Shevandy 55
Shevandy 55 3 өдрийн өмнө
Anyone who debates ZGod's existence in favor of saying He does not is going to hell. Point. Blank. Period. The end. No more debate.
Oldtinear
Oldtinear 3 өдрийн өмнө
What a lovely Christian thought!
Trumpeter Val
Trumpeter Val 3 өдрийн өмнө
Another question: if there is no God, Why would the concept even be?
Smithpolly
Smithpolly 2 өдрийн өмнө
If there are no unicorns , leprechauns , pixies, fairies, centaurs, minotaurs, sphinx ,why would the concept even be?
Oldtinear
Oldtinear 2 өдрийн өмнө
“Religion was invented when the first con man met the first fool.” ― Mark Twain
Kabi Kabi
Kabi Kabi 3 өдрийн өмнө
Mr Harris is a FOOL
Oldtinear
Oldtinear 2 өдрийн өмнө
Evidence, please!
Bernard Longwe
Bernard Longwe 3 өдрийн өмнө
Harris, you are such a blasphemer.
Oldtinear
Oldtinear 2 өдрийн өмнө
Evidence, please!
Bernard Longwe
Bernard Longwe 3 өдрийн өмнө
Atheism is the failure to evolve from barbarism.
Oldtinear
Oldtinear 3 өдрийн өмнө
@Bernard Longwe No true Scotsman fallacy. 'No Scotsman drinks anything but whisky' ''But those Scotsmen are drinking wine'' 'No TRUE Scotsman drinks anything but whisky'
Bernard Longwe
Bernard Longwe 3 өдрийн өмнө
@Oldtinear It's not anyone who claims to be a Christian, who is really a true follower of Jesus Christ but one who loves him and does his commandments which are centered around loving one another, including enemies. Its' clear you are not acquainted with accurate fundamentals of Jesus' ministries because you could have remembered when He said "Narrow is the way that leads to life... while broad easy is the road that leads to destruction and many are on it.." And also "Not every one who says to me 'Lord, Lord' will enter the kingdom of heaven..." So judge for yourself if those who burned others to death are Christans at all
Oldtinear
Oldtinear 3 өдрийн өмнө
Six miles from where I live, one group of Christians burned to death at the stake seventeen members of another group of Christians, including women and a priest. So don't talk to me about barbarians.
Joseph LEUNG
Joseph LEUNG 3 өдрийн өмнө
Lane Craig is brilliant
Oldtinear
Oldtinear 3 өдрийн өмнө
He is brilliant at spewing out a word salad of cod philosophy which will reassure gullible believers of his claim that there is a supernatural basis for morality. If you disagree, show us a 'brilliant' argument from him.
Agnostic Atheist
Agnostic Atheist 3 өдрийн өмнө
No 😂😂😂
plan je
plan je 3 өдрийн өмнө
izbrisano zašto bog čini nešto ili ne _ cenzurirano koja su božija prava u svojoj kreaciji zemlja ravna ploča - gdje niko ne posjeduje ni jedan jedini atom a čak ni one same ni to nije njihovo _ tvoje tijelo nije tvoje tvoje tijelo ni to nije tvoje tvoja duša nije tvoja duša _ i sad ono koja bog ima prava a koja ne _ tvoje tijelo sastavljeno od atoma koje je bog stvorio - koja bog ima prava zašto je bog ovakav onakav _ gluposti seljačke i ništa drugo sva ta pitanja o tome _ čitava zemlja liči na sodomu i gomoru minus sjeverna koreja ali oni su pak nevjernici - zašto bog čini nešto _ UAE zemlja vjernika ali i elitniih kurvi koje nisu za sirotinju - tako da _ sve zemlje na pacifiku na zemlji ravna ploča žive na "vatrenom krugu" ili na kraj zemlje - i onda naviše će tamo jer kraj zemlje i onda ili je sužavaš ili širiš
jose juan isaac taveras
jose juan isaac taveras 3 өдрийн өмнө
on SH lecturing christians at notre dame, i didnt know notre dame had fallen so low
plan je
plan je 3 өдрийн өмнө
a samo sam htijeo lijepu kulturnu činjeničnu diskusiju _ no ne može moram ja pitati google kako ide a čitav google se i ne bori vjeri nego satanizmu - što nije moj interes neka se bore čemu hoće samo i Ivanki u vlastitoj kući prisjede satanizam a toliko imala povjerenja u _ nisi ti Ivanka u njihovoj državi da zavisiš od njih oni su u tvojoj i zavise od tebe i u usa i u matičnoj državi - ako nema vas da vam to sve pokradu oni nivo ispod Sirije _ ne vozi niko u americi jevrejske avione brodove podmornice - oni voze vaše _ ne dobija usa od njih 3 milijarde godišnje za đžaba nego oni od usa _ no ma što ma kako - bilo bi vam jako pametno amerikanci da se vi mene prođete sa njihovim kompanijama kod vas _ ja ne mislim nikada ići u izrael i ako odem idem da ih vrijeđam pred zidom zeze radi _ ako ti ja kažem da vam ne trebaju onda budite sigurni da vam ne trebaju _ je li pozivam ja vas u izrael dođite ima hram i vjera - ne - pa što mislite raditi onda sa njima _ de mi amerikanac objasni što mislite raditi sa njima ako oni ne znaju napraviti treći hram ali nada sve i neće vjere sa izlazka kao da ja pišem novu vjeru ili mijenjam Toru Bibliju Novi Zavjet (ne mislim slovo ni zareza taći jer sve dobro) _ ja vas nikada ni jednog pozvati neću niti bilo bilo kojeg čovjeka kod njih u njihovu vjeru - to se ne može desiti (neće se svakih 15 minuta za potrebe razne pisati vjera, vjera ima na izlazku sad što je oni neće to nije do vjere) _ ako te ne pozovem ja - oni te ne mogu zvati jer pozivaju te za neku njihovu foru i laž _ a ja gdje mi domaćica kuće koja je očistila zemlju na vjeru za vjeru - tako da ne morate to očekivati nikada _ i sad amerikanac zašto ti mene cenzuriraš za njih kada znaš da možeš dobiti _ ako mislite da Bar može postati cura onda može i nekako _ gdje mi je domaćica kuće da kada vas pozovem kao vjernike da ne naletite na lgbt i poslije da mene psujete što su oni nenormalni - pa neće moći kada neće moći ili ideš malo u hram pa poslije pred piramidu pa neće moći kada neće moći _ gdje mi je domaćića kuće da očisti zemlju za hram i to silom zakona - nema eh upravo tako će te i vidjeti hram _ gdje mi je domaćica kuće da obrati sve njih po ISUSU i da se to čita kao knjiga vjere gdje mi je domaćica kuće da ujedini sve rabinske vjere u vjeru sa izlazka i to mora tako - nema - tako ima i da vidite hram - nema jer ne može sa njima _ gdje mi je - jedan bog dvanaest plemena jedne vjere i onda to Bar svojom kraljevskom izdaje zapovijed narodu mora ovako - zato mi trebala bar između sveg ostalog _ sad mi više ne treba ni jedna no samo mi žao svake jedne od njih - eh što ste me prevarile samo da znate vi to što imate čuvajte dobro a ja i melaniju sebi oteti mogu _ drage moje cure bivše - sve što uradite sve je protiv vas samih a za vas je samo ljubav ono što vas čini nekom
plan je
plan je 3 өдрийн өмнө
izrael znate gdje je odete tamo i poštujete njihova pravila - ovo je zapad i ja ne mislim da poštujem njihova pravila kao i ovuda nebi smelo biti da vladaju njihova pravila _ mi smo demokracija a oni neka su ma što hoće
plan je
plan je 3 өдрийн өмнө
ako se ti joe biden pobuniš onda ćeš imati još više problema
plan je
plan je 3 өдрийн өмнө
ne reci nisam znao ali i ne reci nisam znao zbog čega _ vi ako slušate google i morate ja ne mislim jer nisam nikada nikoga - samo poštujem po neke a neke trpim
plan je
plan je 3 өдрийн өмнө
je li vam dobro sutra u nedelju svi ste kućama i možete se kao malo više pobrinuti za familije
plan je
plan je 3 өдрийн өмнө
- sve što treba da se makne maći će se samo google biti više neće
plan je
plan je 3 өдрийн өмнө
eh sad misli sam koliko će to biti - no obnoviti se neće moći
plan je
plan je 3 өдрийн өмнө
google brani da se čita moje ali ne brani da se čita njihovo - nije demokracija jer da su majmuni smetali nebi nego liče na ljude pa smetaju _ i sad ta se prepreka mora ukloniti _ I sad što je tebi tu čudno harris mora se ubiti radnici u google - ali moraju se uništiti tako da se nikada više ogranizirati ne mogu - da kada neko kaže google da mu se um zamrači od toga - da kada neko pomisli google da mu se zgadi _ da kada neko veli google jooj sad će se i moja država srušiti - da takav strah bude u narodima
plan je
plan je 3 өдрийн өмнө
google brani da se čita moje ali ne brani da se čita njihovo - nije demokracija jer da su majmuni smetali nebi nego liče na ljude pa smetaju _ i sad ta se prepreka mora ukloniti _ I sad što je tebi tu čudno harris mora se ubiti radnici u google - ali moraju se uništiti tako da se nikada više ogranizirati ne mogu - da kada neko kaže google da mu se um zamrači od toga
plan je
plan je 3 өдрийн өмнө
tako usa ja ću ti naučiti google pameti kako može -a vi tamo ako se budete žalili na to onda ćete dobiti još više onda idemo po jednog jedinog čovjeka
plan je
plan je 3 өдрийн өмнө
zar mene da zanima što goolge radi ovuda _ hajde nađite negdje gdje ja velim google čitaj _ ne zanimaju me ti ljudi _ i sad da meni google veli mora ovako - pa dobro vikao je i egipt i mnogi mora ovako a ono može ali onda jednom ništa više ne može
plan je
plan je 3 өдрийн өмнө
nećeš bijelu zgradu - ne nećeš nego ćeš ovako jebo ja sam sebi mater što nisam
plan je
plan je 3 өдрийн өмнө
again censored always censored
Get Buff
Get Buff 3 өдрийн өмнө
dont need morality , just social contract and empathy and my communities health/ecological sustainability.
Terri Sexton
Terri Sexton 3 өдрийн өмнө
Tþtttttttttttttttttttttttttttttrttttttþ8
Jose Hernandez
Jose Hernandez 3 өдрийн өмнө
To the athirst speaker he blamed religean for certain unjust or evil events but he did not say anytin about evil that has been committed by atiest governments or cientest or doctors who based there evil acts not in the name God but in the name of science and the greater good according to man's wisdom, example the mas murder by the athirst governments o the ussr ,p.r. of china or the killing in Cambodia. If he correct then he himself is following religean of eathiesim.
Agnostic Atheist
Agnostic Atheist 3 өдрийн өмнө
Atheism was not the reason or justification for their horrible actions. God was and has been reason and justification for horrible actions.
Bryce Bourdeau
Bryce Bourdeau 3 өдрийн өмнө
Weak
Aar Somali
Aar Somali 3 өдрийн өмнө
58:36 this is the best part
t.t. a
t.t. a 3 өдрийн өмнө
Thats litterally just him expressing personal dislike without a basis.
Mark Turnbull
Mark Turnbull 3 өдрийн өмнө
All I know is that there is definitely demonic evil out there plenty of people have experienced it and the only name that has power over them all is the name Jesus christ king of kings. Same with people who had near death experiences there lots who died well longer than they should and comeback and tell you they been in hell or heaven they came back changed but normal as no brain damage even though some have had massive time with no oxygen getting to the brain in many cases.
amalldekan
amalldekan 4 өдрийн өмнө
I don't know which religion is correct, I don't know if God exists, I don't know if my morals come from God. I don't know, so I don't believe. All I know is that I become happy when other people are happy and I will use my life to provide for others: to help raise individuals with good, healthy mindsets and good health.
Agnostic Atheist
Agnostic Atheist 3 өдрийн өмнө
@amalldekan Fantastic
amalldekan
amalldekan 3 өдрийн өмнө
@Agnostic Atheist its more of an agreement with your statement
Agnostic Atheist
Agnostic Atheist 3 өдрийн өмнө
@amalldekan That can imply to your or my statement.
amalldekan
amalldekan 3 өдрийн өмнө
@Agnostic Atheist 'has to be the case'
Agnostic Atheist
Agnostic Atheist 3 өдрийн өмнө
@amalldekan Was that agreement or disagreement with me
stephan hirons
stephan hirons 4 өдрийн өмнө
Craig spends an awful long time to say nothing
Worldraven .Nevar
Worldraven .Nevar Өдрийн өмнө
That's because you have a low IQ.
Mark Demell
Mark Demell 4 өдрийн өмнө
Craig is not a good representative for the Creator.Tsk,tsk. Sam ,your simply a fool.
Oldtinear
Oldtinear 4 өдрийн өмнө
Evidence, please!
Egli Alickaj
Egli Alickaj 4 өдрийн өмнө
Does he said something else, or just "moral values and duty" for whole the speech??????? Sooo boooring
Kevin Bahr
Kevin Bahr 4 өдрийн өмнө
The argument that “you need a God who is absolute good in order to have a concept of good and evil,” could just as easily apply to an evil god. And there seems to be more evidence in that direction...
Mi-ka-el The guardian
Mi-ka-el The guardian 2 өдрийн өмнө
@Carter Jackson Evil at its best, is essentially a lack of something which is intrinsically good. It corrupts something Which already exist , but it doesn't add anything to it . This is why to speak of an Evil God ( with the capital g ,not likr Thor or Zeus) is ontologically wrong. God by definition it has no deficiencies and it doesn't need anything . A god who commits evil acts, it would do so to gain something which he or she doesn't have . But God has all perfection in Himself , therefore God cannot be evil . I'm not trying to prove that God exist, all I'm saying is relates to the definition of God
Carter Jackson
Carter Jackson 2 өдрийн өмнө
@Mi-ka-el The guardian I think you can have both, Trump is a useful example, he is a creation of evil and he preforms evil things.
Mi-ka-el The guardian
Mi-ka-el The guardian 3 өдрийн өмнө
I think you are making an ontological mistake in defying "Evil " as something which is either created or that it has the potential to create
Bernard Longwe
Bernard Longwe 3 өдрийн өмнө
Yes, the god of evil is Satan the devil, deceiver, tempter,...
Kevin Bahr
Kevin Bahr 4 өдрийн өмнө
Doesn’t seem to be much point in having a debate if the winner is whoever can recite existing arguments the best. All these points have been made and rebutted before (as they keep referring the audience to read other books for more info). Emergentism hasn’t had enough attention in these kinds of debates. A system can have emergent properties that don’t exist in its sub components. I don’t see a reason why morality can’t be an emergent property of conscious beings, when it doesn’t exist in the underlying physical systems.
Benjamin Stephens
Benjamin Stephens 4 өдрийн өмнө
My question is is it moral if it benefits me but Causes others to suffer
Benjamin Stephens
Benjamin Stephens 3 өдрийн өмнө
Get what your saying were true we would live in a perfect society but since we don't what I'm saying must be true
Anand Patel
Anand Patel 3 өдрийн өмнө
@Benjamin Stephens Yeah but nobody remains strongest forever so we don't hold that standard for making common ground. We use logic and reasoning to make common ground for all.
Benjamin Stephens
Benjamin Stephens 3 өдрийн өмнө
Agreed but the strongest gets to decide what that common ground is. And the only way to be the strongest is to step on everyone else
Anand Patel
Anand Patel 3 өдрийн өмнө
@Benjamin Stephens we have to make some common ground if we want to live in the shared society.
Benjamin Stephens
Benjamin Stephens 3 өдрийн өмнө
That's your definition of morals my definition of morals is whatever I have to do to get ahead
Alexander Kovalchuk
Alexander Kovalchuk 4 өдрийн өмнө
it's funny how they saying true believers accept and welcome slaves in their life, when it's other way around. none believer or all world religions who is not based on real foundation of truth. they the one who say to themselves " slave is okay" and say " killing is okay too "
beastshawnee
beastshawnee 4 өдрийн өмнө
Our ancient ancestors had better teeth than we did! Waaaay better teeth without all the carbs and veggies. Bad teeth and heart attacks first came along in large amounts with agriculture and wheat.
Tenor Murphy
Tenor Murphy 4 өдрийн өмнө
Harris should take another look at Job
David Rose
David Rose 4 өдрийн өмнө
Good is the source from which moral attributed comes from the standard. You say we don't need God to have morality?? I do not agree. Just a bunch of mumble jumble
Jay
Jay 4 өдрийн өмнө
Sam Harris and William Craig are having a debate. We have a mediator in the middle. The mediator gives the commands. To not have a mediator will bring chaos in a debate. To have a mediator in a debate will bring order. Therefore, you can't have order without the rule setter. If this world has logical order, where did logical order come from? To have order is to set the rules in order! How can rules be established without an established ( God )?
sharron powell
sharron powell 4 өдрийн өмнө
Aaaww the f error Aaaww
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