Why does Russia have the best maps of Britain?

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Jay Foreman

7 өдрийн өмнө

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yfelwulf Өдрийн өмнө
@Jimbob Robob Exactly how would control hundreds of millions of people even the Germans found it near impossible.
yfelwulf Өдрийн өмнө
@Influence08 Australia never entered Europe other than providing pilots.
Jimbob Robob
Jimbob Robob Өдрийн өмнө
Planning for an invasion is a bit of the usual paranoid middle class overreach about the USSR. As if a conventional bombing campaign might not have preceded a nuclear one or sabotage and special ops by agents and special forces wouldn't have been a thing. Invasion indeed! How paranoid. It's as if the anxiety over Putin has pushed aside the collapse of the USSR under it's own deficiencies when it was revealed to be almost certainly incapable of such a thing and had been for decades.
yfelwulf 2 өдрийн өмнө
@thats not your bussines Unlike America that is about to become a 4th World Country.
yfelwulf 2 өдрийн өмнө
@Raged Ape evo Russia had Germany on the run before the Allies entered Europe they actually captured Berlin. They also at Americas request defeated Japan in just 2 weeks. America only fought 20% of the Japanese Army that had no equipment and had to steal food to operate. They used the A Bomb to stop them surrendering to Russia. FYI the British Army outfought and captured more territory than America in Europe you must have seen the movie version where America won.
Green Shark
Green Shark Цагийн өмнө
1:50 ah yes, the Sunderland. One of my favourite planes. (also I agree that it should be called a swimming plane)
jimmy e
jimmy e 2 цагийн өмнө
"What have the Russians ever done for us?" Besides, winning world war II?
hsm_ epic_return
hsm_ epic_return 3 цагийн өмнө
You lost me at "Russia" when talking about the Cold War. Soviet Union. It is not the same thing.
mijuo roui
mijuo roui Цагийн өмнө
Virgin British-English dialect: Eastbourne Chad Polish lingo: I S T B O N
jimmy e
jimmy e 3 цагийн өмнө
Maps spelled backwards is SPAM
just don't.
just don't. 4 цагийн өмнө
why is this so cute? 6:05 I can't stop replaying it :D
mijuo roui
mijuo roui Цагийн өмнө
I love that moments when British people try to say something in Polish, and they are very proud of the sound they just made, when they actually aren't even close :D
Stret173 4 цагийн өмнө
Cypher791 4 цагийн өмнө
I bet the Russians have a map of this room right now!!! Gah! 😣...
Wizzkid3000 5 цагийн өмнө
These maps are wonderful, I work in contaminated land so I use these maps all the time but never knew the history behind them :-D Maybe its time for the fire risk maps of London, they are fun!!
Magpie Of Truth
Magpie Of Truth 5 цагийн өмнө
Omg blink!
Δημητρης Καραμανος
Δημητρης Καραμανος 5 цагийн өмнө
Because they wanted to invade.
Julia Lilienstein
Julia Lilienstein 6 цагийн өмнө
Unfortunately, thanks to North Korea bringing back MAD and Cold War politics plus Trump getting rid of the Iran nuclear deal, now nukes have become an appropriate way to spend taxpayer money.
Morning_glory Monster
Morning_glory Monster 6 цагийн өмнө
As Victor Suvorov has noticed, one of the reasons for the 1941 German sucess was that USSR had no accurate maps of its own territory to give to its own troops although it had excellent maps of.... Germany. This tells us something of their pre-war plans, doesn't it?
Grogery 1
Grogery 1 7 цагийн өмнө
I just read that Australian maps have been adjusted to allow for continental drift. Any chance of digging into that?
Jay Foreman
Jay Foreman 6 цагийн өмнө
Oh boy, you’re in luck! Stay tuned to this channel for another 3 weeks......
hoppuss44 8 цагийн өмнө
Yet again the meme that the Soviets won the war by themselves. TL;DR it was a combined effort, the Allies wouldn't have made it without the Soviets and vice versa. Yes they absorbed circa 80% of German ground forces, but circa 80% of the Luftwaffe was kept busy by Allied bombing of Germany... The scale and impact of the bombing and the detriment it had to the German war effort cannot be over emphasised enough. At the height of the bombing, the RAF would send a stream of circa 1000 bombers to a single target in one night, whilst the USAAF kept them busy with similar numbers during the day. This is something the Soviets had absolute no capability to do, being entirely consumed by their efforts in the ground war. It was 24 hours round the clock and anything of military importance in Western and Central Europe (factories, industrial output, railways, roads, bridges) etc. that could be of use to the Axis was absolutely obliterated. More civilians died in a single night raid on Dresden than during the whole of the Blitz on Britain. It got so bad that entire supply chains ceased to function... Most of Europe was starving and emaciated due to the food shortages, millions of civilians were displaced etc. it was absolute anarchy. Not to mention the countless millions of tons of fuel, munitions, and other war materials etc. that were sent to the Soviets by both the UK and US via the Artic Convoys. In total they received tens of thousands of vehicles (trucks, aeroplanes, tanks etc.) and then they immediately stabbed us in the back with the Cold War. Stalin was as bad as the Austrian man but for some reason he, and the Soviets, get a free pass in modern culture. What about the gulags, massacre of Poles at Katyn etc. etc. the list of Soviet atrocities matches those of the Axis blow for blow. They were partners of convenience and nothing more. As soon as the war ended they then decided to hold the world to ransom for 50 years with the Cold War.
Кот Доступа
Кот Доступа 8 цагийн өмнө
siratthebox 8 цагийн өмнө
Russian's didn't win WW2. The Americans did.
Кот Доступа
Кот Доступа 8 цагийн өмнө
TheBestlaidschemes 8 цагийн өмнө
Jacob and Esau... the story continues...
Carlos Slim
Carlos Slim 8 цагийн өмнө
10,000 miles? how far anywhere on the world are you from the rings on youranus
yaliso gioouy
yaliso gioouy 9 цагийн өмнө
military alliance between the two Imperial Empires.
Bogusz Szulc
Bogusz Szulc 9 цагийн өмнө
I love that moments when British people try to say something in Polish, and they are very proud of the sound they just made, when they actually aren't even close :D
yaliso gioouy
yaliso gioouy 9 цагийн өмнө
I watch for the ads
noob2243 9 цагийн өмнө
Virgin British-English dialect: Eastbourne Chad Polish lingo: *_I S T B O N_*
TheHabsification 9 цагийн өмнө
Ah cool I live in that Polish town of SAUFEND-ON-SJI
Luc Tréguier
Luc Tréguier 10 цагийн өмнө
Hilarious video
Alienhead Games
Alienhead Games 10 цагийн өмнө
the Russian word Jay says at 6:05 translates to nightmare
Duncan Crow
Duncan Crow 11 цагийн өмнө
When Russia was invaded by Alexander the fraud, the yellow Horde of regular Russian Army responded by pushing the rotters back right to the coast of France. The Russians redid all the maps back then and named a lot of European geography with Russian names that remain today. So the English got their fine maps from the Russians.
BREXIT MEANS BREXIT 11 цагийн өмнө
12 цагийн өмнө
Hello from Russia! Привет из России!
vincent7520 12 цагийн өмнө
CAN'T YOU CALM DOWN ???… Wha's the hurry ? You'd better speak slower to make your case … otherwise you'll be granted the "usual You Tube Common Place Prize". That's not something you want to be bothered by, ins't it? OK OK I'l subscribe anyway.
vincent7520 12 цагийн өмнө
Your statement maybe right but I can tell you the Paris (France) map at 5:25 is far from being exact : streets are missing, the Mint facing the Pont Neuf on the left bank is entirely obliterated (I was born on one of the surrounding street in 1948 and lived in the same till 2003 !…), passages through blocks are not mentioned (essential when we're talking military occupation) … Russians have been known to be sloppy… or was Paris not so strategically important ?…
vincent7520 12 цагийн өмнө
Update : the rue Visconti, passage Dauphine, Rue de Nesle, rue Mazet, is missing : that's a lot for a 400m x 400m square, not to mention the total inaccuracy of the rue Mazarine, rue de Bucy and rue Dauphine junctions, not to mention the inaccuracy of the rue Jacques Callot, rue de Seine, rue Guénégaud auctions the same spot … wow ! wow ! …
Dontclickme 12 цагийн өмнө
Well I mean... them supplying Germans have them the ability to start ww2...
vincent7520 12 цагийн өмнө
Nice channel … but the introduction is very very corny…
Jamie Sully
Jamie Sully 12 цагийн өмнө
Love how Frome got a mention 😂
Dm3qXY 12 цагийн өмнө
For whatever reasons, i have the video playback on mute.. after scrolling along i see no indication of maps of Britain... leaving page.. bye...
Remittance Man
Remittance Man 13 цагийн өмнө
So the Russians made maps to help their soldiers invade Britain if they ever needed to. You think we didn't do the same? The only difference is we didn't lose the Cold War and let a whole bunch of our maps get into the wrong hands during the subsequent great bugout.
Ленивый матрос
Ленивый матрос 13 цагийн өмнө
- Откуда у них наши старые бумажные карты, Иван? - Не знаю, Иван, но хорошо что они не ничего знают о полной модели планеты в RedOctober.app
Robert Nebot
Robert Nebot 14 цагийн өмнө
I watch for the ads
Adolfas Ramanauskas
Adolfas Ramanauskas 15 цагийн өмнө
Why would the allies want to give out detailed and oriented map of their airfields, ports and such... weren't they enemies?
A VERY horny Mr.Dinosaur
A VERY horny Mr.Dinosaur 15 цагийн өмнө
i am confusion.. you said it was definitely NOT potatoes!!!??
erobran2 15 цагийн өмнө
@Jay Foreman, why the start of the intro have a map of Copenhagen (My City = Denmark) :-)?
groupsphera 15 цагийн өмнө
6:06 Ужас!
Aladeen Motherfucker
Aladeen Motherfucker 16 цагийн өмнө
Soviet Union is not same as Russia, wtf
devan pig
devan pig 16 цагийн өмнө
Space... lol
Nuthatch666 16 цагийн өмнө
Correction: Vodka comes from Poland! Cheers guys :)
Random Account
Random Account 17 цагийн өмнө
0:03 "winning world war 2" How long until the triggered americans come and try to claim they did it? I give it half a minute
M G 17 цагийн өмнө
WOW THANKS MAP MEN. I'm going to SUBSCRIBE for more map stuff
Yash Pal Goyal
Yash Pal Goyal 17 цагийн өмнө
7:28 who's amanda rosh lee??
scrubby Bard
scrubby Bard 17 цагийн өмнө
So they can find and poison people with out Google maps
Bartosz Pawlicki
Bartosz Pawlicki 18 цагийн өмнө
0:50 Hey, I am both Polish and from Poland and somehow he said it so bad I cannot understand it... Good job
Luk Puk
Luk Puk 18 цагийн өмнө
Mark how did you break your nose? How long for this channel to pay for the surgery, it stands out like a sore thumb bro xD good vid tho
YEOLEWILLY 18 цагийн өмнө
Russia's "polish allys"
Rohit Rai
Rohit Rai 18 цагийн өмнө
4:40 here the real john davies and alexander kent www.wired.com/2015/07/secret-cold-war-maps/amp
Kiskaloo 19 цагийн өмнө
Sheldon and Amy! You look so different.
Graham Ariss
Graham Ariss 19 цагийн өмнө
I think actually the maps were part of Soviet Planning and thusly quite absurd, for example you show a Polish Airforce Map, very useful for an airforce that the Soviets would not entrust with any aircraft to be able to reach much beyond its borders, let alone to the south coast of England. Not only that, but in the Soviet Union the longer range your aircraft, the further you were placed from the border with the West and or strategic aircraft could only be crewed by personnel with significant family commitments so they would not be motivated to defect to the West, with an event such as an marital breakdown liable to see you posted to the east. However whilst the Soviet Union post Lenin had given up any idea of global domination focusing on its survival and post war tieing the west up in wars away from its borders I.e Korea, Vietnam, Middle East the map making department continued with Plan A, mapping and remapping the world for an occupation that not only would not but also could not happen.
Practical Russian with Tam
Practical Russian with Tam 19 цагийн өмнө
*Here are some Russian lessons and songs*
kirbyman1kanden7pf 20 цагийн өмнө
They added lots of land under the Robert Moses Causeway which isn't actually there and combined the small islands of East and West Fire Island into one, which is wrong, but otherwise pretty accurate map for this area Then again it's a really old map
Soinas Doyi
Soinas Doyi 20 цагийн өмнө
Other countries: we’ve heard of this undiscovered area where nobodies ever chartered before Britian: 0:14
Dylan Dreisbach
Dylan Dreisbach 21 цагийн өмнө
I honestly can’t tell if that picnic thing was a joke or not.
Soinas Doyi
Soinas Doyi 20 цагийн өмнө
1:22 Andropov was director of KGB. Began big corruption investigation. Started conflict with
Grubber Jt
Grubber Jt 21 цагийн өмнө
Interesting subject , pity about the idiotic presentation style.
Gerard Khachaturyan
Gerard Khachaturyan 21 цагийн өмнө
0:30 Is that Gillingham?
KayAteChef Өдрийн өмнө
If your enemy has nukes... get some nukes too.
Albert Klarname
Albert Klarname Өдрийн өмнө
Giorgianni Cartamancini
Giorgianni Cartamancini Өдрийн өмнө
Got the video in my recommendation, the quality is amazing!
Craig Jones
Craig Jones Өдрийн өмнө
I know this is probably an annoying comment to have, probably one you get a lot, but this is the first of your videos I've seen and I thought you were Beardyman, whom Wikipedia informs me is your brother. You bot sound and look so similar. Anyway, I'll carry on playing the video now,are it to 0.11 before I had to go and check. I'll drop by again later to comment on the actual content of the video, thanks, bye.
Thomas Luethi
Thomas Luethi Өдрийн өмнө
@jayforemen you will have to checkout the application for the swiss maps (swiss topo) all swiss maps are available through the app. they are not as accurate as the swiss military maps i used, but the information those maps contain are insane
Карась Васин
Карась Васин Өдрийн өмнө
что это за язык?
Spoops Өдрийн өмнө
I worked in an archive for a while, and found a series of Soviet maps of the UK, and a number of the local military bases had been labelled as schools (likely due to British intelligence trickery) and all schools were marked as non-targets.
Robert Mihalache
Robert Mihalache Өдрийн өмнө
Very well explained. Excellent quality. Well done.
Babalonkie Өдрийн өмнө
Russian spies also measure the height of church bell towers in Salisbury...
Jötunn Өдрийн өмнө
Hanscom is about 20 minutes from my house, and I haven't seen more than one or two of the runways. It's a logistics base these days with a large civilian population.
xfire7 Өдрийн өмнө
I wish they had invaded . That way the E.U. wouldn`t have existed .
Elijah Edric Guinto
Elijah Edric Guinto Өдрийн өмнө
The first ever post-Brexit video (as in the first after the transition period).
DartLuke Өдрийн өмнө
1:22 Andropov was chief of KGB. Started big anticorruption campaign. As result it was war between Ministry of Internal Affairs(Soviet Police) and KGB. It is possible that he was assassinated
frank Өдрийн өмнө
Only 15% of the KGB's budget was used for spying as we know it. The other 85% percent was used for "ideological subversion" (propagandizing receptive populations). Source: ex-KGB agent Yuri Bezmenov
Фердинанд Уткин
Фердинанд Уткин Өдрийн өмнө
ДЕГ момент
Pirvog Compost
Pirvog Compost Өдрийн өмнө
Because socialism is a far more effective system and Soviet people were more educated and better trained.
The Original Chefboyoboy
The Original Chefboyoboy Өдрийн өмнө
oi, mate... know where I can get a map? Bonus Comment: Because they were Russian made they were all drawn with a pencil!
Tim M
Tim M Өдрийн өмнө
The thief from chips challenge??? :)
Mickey Wakefield
Mickey Wakefield Өдрийн өмнө
Swiss Maps. Small country. Lots of money. A defensively oriented military focused on artillery on mountain tops. Equals - unbelievable maps. Singular trees are visible on most.
Charles Sebastian Michel de Colbert
Charles Sebastian Michel de Colbert 5 цагийн өмнө
“I believe” is a fancy way of saying I have a vague recollection of this but can’t remember the details.
Charles Sebastian Michel de Colbert
Charles Sebastian Michel de Colbert 5 цагийн өмнө
I believe Napoleon commissioned a huge and detailed 3D relief model of Switzerland, which became a tourist attraction in its own right after the war.
Colonel Panic
Colonel Panic Өдрийн өмнө
Radiators huh, The Russian San Galli's claim as the inventor of the heating radiator is disputed. It appears that he is one of several people who contributed to the development of the heating innovation. San Galli received a radiator patent in 1857, while American Joseph Nason developed a primitive radiator in 1841and received a number of U.S. patents for hot water and steam heating. Nason's patent for tapered pipe threads in particular is cited by 1930s writer Ara Marcus Daniels as the key development in the birth of the radiator.
TheThousandhours Өдрийн өмнө
dueeh nyyu
dueeh nyyu Өдрийн өмнө
actress playing her...
yo yo
yo yo Өдрийн өмнө
The periodic table? I'm pretty sure the UK has made the largest contribution to the periodic table?
dueeh nyyu
dueeh nyyu Өдрийн өмнө
paranoid ex-secret services agents, it’s just a matter of short time for this to become the past, thanks to the laws of nature. 
Dariel Rodríguez
Dariel Rodríguez Өдрийн өмнө
Your book is currently unavailable on Amazon. Any other source to get it? Thank you
The Proffsr Dickinson
The Proffsr Dickinson Өдрийн өмнө
Poland invented Vodka in 1405 just like the irish invented whiskey in 1405 ONE STRUGGLE
MadEcki Өдрийн өмнө
„Don’t watch it now, watch it later!“ - here‘s that episode: mnpost.info/zone/oN3Wqd_QoJaWY6A/video
Aditya Narayan Rai
Aditya Narayan Rai Өдрийн өмнө
Only thing more irritating than Meg is British Accent.
Gavin Little
Gavin Little Өдрийн өмнө
Tunbridge wells translation is jokes
Kamil Өдрийн өмнө
i'm polish and live in britland, and the phonetic spelling is not bad lol
OhThatEdit Өдрийн өмнө
because they had bears to ride on
Rajdeep Ghara
Rajdeep Ghara Өдрийн өмнө
Finally another video of Map men
Andrea Davide
Andrea Davide Өдрийн өмнө
You win at 1:03!
23rt2308u24tkhg Өдрийн өмнө
Winning WW2 is debatable
simon dupper
simon dupper Өдрийн өмнө
They were the reason ww2 was won, they captured Berlin, killed the most soldiers, and undoubtedly won the war
Kong Өдрийн өмнө
No it’s not
dustboxednorth Өдрийн өмнө
5:59 expected a NordVPN ad right about here
YouSoSpice Өдрийн өмнө
k o s h m a r
oaketree Өдрийн өмнө
The Chip's Challenge spy icon lmfao
Bob Baguette
Bob Baguette Өдрийн өмнө
When you said won the war for us, I puked a little. If you consider the rape and pillage of hundreds of miles of land a win then kudos to you.
Marco Anonymous
Marco Anonymous Өдрийн өмнө
Hence the draft of young men of the free West in the army, like myself.
Alexander Kachkaev
Alexander Kachkaev Өдрийн өмнө
*I am Russian and I made very detailed maps of some parts of the UK. Spoiler alert: this won’t be a spy story* 😁 Shortly after moving to London in 2009 as a student, I became interested in OpenStreetMap (OSM), which is an open map of the whole planet similar to Wikipedia. It did not take me much time to discover a nice local OSM community with pub meetups in ‘mapping parties’, which I happily joined. A mapping party in OSM is when the volunteers split some area into slices, decide who maps what, then walk around with clipboards, pens and photo cameras and finally add the collected data to the database under a free license. A few London blocks around Baker Street is an example of how crazy I sometimes went in surveying the details: see building colours and roof shapes, street lamps, individual trees, etc.: demo.f4map.com/#lat=51.5230613&lon=-0.1591994&zoom=18&camera.theta=49.87&camera.phi=42.112 I bet Soviet spies would be jealous! 😂
 I did not know about that crazy mapping project by the Soviets until going to an exception called ‘Maps and the 20th Century’, which took place at the British library in 2017. There was a pretty large paper map of Brighton, which I found pretty detailed, but not exceptional by any means at first glance. Only after checking the label plate, I realised that all captions on that map were in Cyrillic and this totally blew my mind! The funniest thing for me then was that a few years before seeing that Soviet map I also mapped Brighton with OSM folks, and my ‘mapping cake’ slice was the Brighton peer. The photo of how I was processing the collected data was even uploaded to Wikimedia commons by somebody after that: commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Adding_data_to_OSM_after_mapping_Brighton_Pier.jpg 
Again, a Soviet spy would be 100% jealous seeing the tech that I used! 😂
 It’s so cool to realise that the fabric of the 21st century is much more open and humane compared to the 20th century’s one. Although parts of the world are still ruled by old and paranoid ex-secret services agents, it’s just a matter of short time for this to become the past, thanks to the laws of nature. 
Replaymyway Өдрийн өмнө
glad to hear Russia won WW2 for us especially the 2 years of the war they were essentially on the Germans side
alteronline Өдрийн өмнө
спасибо за видео, товарищи. смотрел вместе с медведем
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