Zen 3 5800X + 5900X CPUs, Debunking Radeon 6000 Spec Leaks - Awesome Hardware #241

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Zen 3 5800X + 5900X CPUs, Debunking Radeon 6000 Spec Leaks - Awesome Hardware #241
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--== TIMESTAMPS ==-- (many thanks to Your Everyday Tech!)
0:00 Intro
1:40 Stores
5:15 AMD Zen 3 5800X
11:19 AMD Zen 3 5900X
12:55 Poll: Ryzen 5900X rumored to have a 150w TDP
22:44 5900X Poll Results
24:12 Debunking Newegg's Supposed Radeon 6000 Spec Leaks
33:33 RGB UPS (Uninterruptible Power Supply)
37:21 1usmus Ryzen overclocking Tool "ClockTuner" Available now
39:38 RTX 3080 20GB and RTX 3060 / 3070 Leaks
44:47 RTX 3060 Ti Confirmed?
52:52 Nvidia's New Drivers Fix RTX 3080 Crashes
1:11:35 Iron Man themed RTX 3080 and 3070
1:14:13 GN Steve Forced to do More RTX 3000 Analysis While Mountain Biking
--== LINKS / TOC ==--
AMD Zen 3 "Vermeer" CPUs Surface, Ryzen 7 5800X Tested
Ryzen 9 5900X “Vermeer” 12c/24t Zen 3 CPU Allegedly Up To 5 GHz With 150W TDP
Radeon RX 6000 Specs Leaked by Newegg were just from TPU Database
Note Newegg's Article Edit/Addition
Multiple Articles published Based on this info in the last 24 hours with no update or mention of Newegg's correction
Another RGB Thing for your PC: Uninterruptible Power Supply!
Yuri Bubliy (@1usmus) releases ClockTuner for Ryzen Zen 2 CPUs
GALAX Shows Slide with GeForce RTX 3080 20GB and RTX 3060
RTX 3060 Ti Coming Too, According to Gigabyte SKU List
Tested: Nvidia's new drivers fix RTX 3080 crashes, slightly sacrifice clock speed
Gainward Reveals RTX 3080 and RTX 3070 With Iron Man Suit Theme
GN Steve Forced to do More RTX 3000 Analysis While Mountain Biking

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Paul's Hardware TimeStamps 1:40 - Stores 5:15 - AMD Zen 3 5800X 11:19 - AMD Zen 3 5900X 12:55 - Poll: Ryzen 5900X rumored to have a 150w TDP -- what would you think if it was more power hungry than last gen? 22:44 - Results: Ryzen 5900X rumored to have a 150w TDP -- what would you think if it was more power hungry than last gen? 24:12 - Debunking Radeon 6000 Spec Leaks 33:33 - RGB UPS [Uninterruptible Power Supply] 37:21 - Ryzen overclocking Tool "ClockTuner" Available now 39:38 - RTX 3080 20gb and 3060 Leaks 44:47 - RTX 3060 Ti Confirmed? 52:52 - Nvidia's New Drivers Fix RTX 3080 Crashes 1:11:35 - Iron Man themed RTX 3080 and 3070 1:14:13 - Gamers Nexus Video "The Real Problem with RTX 3080 Crashes is NVIDIA's Paranoia of Leaks"
Arfuz Zaman
Arfuz Zaman Сарын өмнө
@John Zman Mr Jhon is it really that triggering ?
John Zman
John Zman Сарын өмнө
@Arfuz Zaman brah? Fucking millennials
Grizzly66 Сарын өмнө
Arfuz Zaman
Arfuz Zaman 2 сарын өмнө
Thank u so much brah
Kian Dialameh
Kian Dialameh 2 сарын өмнө
Thank you so much
dunastrig 8 өдрийн өмнө
Ricky Smith
Ricky Smith Сарын өмнө
PC Welt is the German version of PC World without Gordon...
Eric Taylor
Eric Taylor Сарын өмнө
Maybe AMD went with 5000 series for desktops because they have 4000 series in laptops and they wanted to alleviate confusion. Gamer Meld uses Apisak leaks all the time, and I'm pretty sure they've ALWAYS been right on par with the actual product. I don't think the Big Navi info was "accidentally leaked" seems more like AMD intentionally put some info out to keep peoples interest and let them know they can compete with NVidia 3000 series at a cheaper price so people will think about waiting before buying NVidia cards. Yes, Jayz did receive some "leaked" photos from a source inside the company and he did a video on them.
Simple Gunner
Simple Gunner Сарын өмнө
an eco mode on a lambo. thats a funny though
1,000,000 subscribers for no reason?
1,000,000 subscribers for no reason? Сарын өмнө
MNpost: Streamed live Sep 29 Also MNpost: Streamed 1 week ago 🤔
Ben Stroud
Ben Stroud Сарын өмнө
Radeon rx 6900xt is not a rumored GPU and the specs are not rumored either they are accurate and they are going to destroy the Nvidia rtx 3000 series plus sony and Microsoft useing AMD CPU and GPU in ps5 and xbox series x is going to help AMD finally kick both Intel and Nvidia asses for good I've been watin for the day for Intel and AMD to finally get there asses handed to them by AMD and it's coming soon
TheMonroe654HD Сарын өмнө
No more splitting into 17 parts, huh?
Brian Batie
Brian Batie Сарын өмнө
1:20:26 You flashed the back plate by so fast that it looked like it could have been Iron Man's circumcised liquid waste disposal unit, pointing leftward to where the caution notice was the moil...
Qyngali Сарын өмнө
RE: Ryzen 7 5800X, they went to 5000 to have ALL the Zen3 CPU's as 5000 series, unlike todays situation where laptop and desktop (OEM) APU Zen2 is 4000 series. Also, your speculation that they skipped 4000 naming to avoid the promise of backwards compatibility is wrong as they repeatedly said Zen3 when discussing it.
Tyrant Сарын өмнө
Oh will the new Ryzen CPU be able to handle above 3600 DDR4 without f'n up or are the AMD lies just going to continue to grow. You AMD people need to like....get some developmental experience because you're coming off as kinda stupid. If I can't even use f'n 4 year old RAM, then guess what, f ya and your CPU main, I piss in your face 8k style, fps that son.
Vincent Keith
Vincent Keith Сарын өмнө
5000 vs 4000 - simply a number sync with the laptop parts (which already have a 4K number with the last generation silicon)
King David
King David Сарын өмнө
[ ECLIPSTAR ] Сарын өмнө
Who directly went to the benchmark part?
Fernando Vázquez Baxmann Carrupt
Fernando Vázquez Baxmann Carrupt Сарын өмнө
They are (probably) skipping 4000x series on desktop to not confude them with mobile/notebooks 4000x series CPUs.
Justin Waddell
Justin Waddell Сарын өмнө
Re: Ryzen Naming This simplest answer is the most likely. There’s already a Ryzen 4000 series based on last gen architecture. They’re moving to 5000 to avoid confusion. You guys remember the GTX 800 series?
biggoofybastard Сарын өмнө
57:30 21-2200 Ghz? Holy shit AMD has no chance against numbers like that.
Derively Сарын өмнө
You know it's an AMD sponsored leak, when they use Ashes of the Singularity...
T Greaux
T Greaux Сарын өмнө
BitWit is a shill.
Gordon Goodman
Gordon Goodman Сарын өмнө
Who isn't?
Marc Wolfe
Marc Wolfe Сарын өмнө
Hopefully the silver lining to skipping 4000 is, the APUs not running older shtt having the same first number. Maybe the APUs that come out around the same time but have previous generation architecture will be 4000. That'd be smart.
Pete Nielsen
Pete Nielsen Сарын өмнө
S/PDIF ports are not necessarily from Sony or Phillips either, so the Kleenex analogy is a good one. My Kleenex are actually the Wegmans or Puffs brands!
Victor Segovia Palacios
Victor Segovia Palacios Сарын өмнө
AMD fanboys pushing Leaks everywhere just to seed confusion and "hope".... as they usually do.
rediornot Сарын өмнө
RGB? I have and rgb light it my toilet bowl, great for night trips and motion sensor, 6 feet away and you can find the way.
SSU Сарын өмнө
5000 series zen3 is likely a result of backfire from 4000 series mobile cpu naming
brandon valera
brandon valera Сарын өмнө
rough indeed
Tracy E. H
Tracy E. H Сарын өмнө
you guys are great !!!
zippee Сарын өмнө
The guy on right makes the dumbest faces on all his thumbnails.
Donn Buchfinck
Donn Buchfinck Сарын өмнө
the green in glass is iron. When you look at the edge of glass and it is green it is the iron from the chemical compound of the cullet that creates the green. Starphire is a brand of low iron glass that is clear. Aquariums use it to not have the color change. Wonder why a coca cola bottle is green. THey add iron to the glass. Wonder why jade is green, the green is iron coloring the rock. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-iron_glass
Chase Messinger
Chase Messinger Сарын өмнө
Hoping someone can answer this question. I am building for anticipation for zen 3. B550 Taichi, so do I just go with the MB fastest supported memory or do I need to wait to see compatible timings to maximize performance?
John Capone
John Capone Сарын өмнө
Will there be newer x570 boards close to the release of the 5900x?
rtx3090isdumb Сарын өмнө
nvidia shills
SoulFU2 Сарын өмнө
What's up fellas, and the comment community! I am extremely new to PC's and gaming scene (just moved back into my moms basement) 😂See what I did there! Ok, now to my question? Paul/Kyle have you ever done a PC build geared towards video editing and streaming? I know you are primarily about gaming but was curious if you've done a video on the subject or not and can point it out to me so I can watch or possibly make one in the future?
johan Döden Edgren
johan Döden Edgren Сарын өмнө
what I have heard is that they want both CPUs and APUs to have same series names or something. realy hope the up coming cpus are compatible with x570. have plans to get a 5900x in a year+ or so if it works with x570.
Maurice Timmermans
Maurice Timmermans Сарын өмнө
Kyle ... please turn off your slog profile picture from the cam when you go live :)
Eternalduoae Сарын өмнө
Sorry guys, tried to listen but that background noise (a fan?) was really irritating.
Just Another Broke Nerd
Just Another Broke Nerd Сарын өмнө
Are the AMD 4000 series APUs, that were said to be going to OEMs 1st, available yet? (even in a pre-built)
Andrew Johnson
Andrew Johnson Сарын өмнө
Yes. UFD Tech already built and tested it after getting one pulled from a prebuilt off eBay. Video went up a week or two ago.
Mark Brown
Mark Brown Сарын өмнө
Older Dog with hip pain? Try plain old Children’s Aspirin or 1/4 tab adult Aspirin. Works better on dogs than humans with no stomach damage and a lot cheaper!
Mayra Basinger
Mayra Basinger Сарын өмнө
The reasons for the Zen3 5xxx naming convention is to differentiate it from the Zen2 4xxx mobile processors to avoid confusion.
Andrew Johnson
Andrew Johnson Сарын өмнө
"You're putting breasts on a man to avoid confusion?" -Roz Focker
JG Photography Studios
JG Photography Studios Сарын өмнө
With all that money that Kyle male his video looks like shit.
QuantumBraced Сарын өмнө
Nah I disagree on GN. I mean... He didn't have to make the video *while* mountain biking, he could have done it while sitting down somewhere. Like if this podcast was done while you guys were water skiing, it probably wouldn't be amazing content. I mean I love GN and I didn't mind it and clearly people shouldn't be rude. But on the *specific* point of is it a good idea to talk about graphics card capacitors while mountain biking and trying to catch your breath, probably not. You can't tell me he was that pressed for time that he had to do it while on the bike LOL.
James Smith
James Smith Сарын өмнө
I think that when you're in the position you are, making up a whole bunch of rumors about why AMD is changing their number scheme is pretty irresponsible. It casts negative light on something you have NO IDEA about, as you said. It is your show, but whereas I normally just leave a video if I start disliking it because I'm hearing stuff I believe to be harmful or plain fallacy, I had to thumb you all down on this one, because of how irresponsible I feel it was. You should stick with what you know if you aren't into the routine of analyzing rumors on a daily basis, because you have no frame of reference to make any kind of analysis for what you're saying. You sounded like a person throwing a whole bunch of spin just to make the situation confusing, which is often done to create negativity or doubt about a particular topic.
James Smith
James Smith Сарын өмнө
@Christopher VanZetta Are you their muscle that goes in to beat up anyone who makes a negative comment about what they present?? My butt's fine. What Paul presented was irresponsible rumor.
Christopher VanZetta
Christopher VanZetta Сарын өмнө
Don't be butthurt
ItsSArCaZm Сарын өмнө
anyone know the headphones paul/kyle are using?
Johnfuse Сарын өмнө
7:56 Well obviously Intel gets a higher overall score when the Intel cpu is a 10 core and the ryzen just an 8 core... That doesn`t really mean that Intel is still better. Would be embarassing if Intel would not only get destroyed by single core performance but their 10 core beaten by an 8 core. I think the new Ryzen series will beat Intels 10000 series in single core performance, may it be workloads like rendering or gaming, but it will be only by 3-6% more and not a huge difference. But it would still mean that Ryzen is then the fastest cpu on the market for every workload and also more efficient.
jordinja Сарын өмнө
14:45 why would they do that? Come on lads, it's obvious - to do away with the confusion around the mobile processors in the same series actually being last gen.
SUPASLAV76 TM Сарын өмнө
I think AMD have already claimed efficiency or low power spec cpu with the older generation. I think it's obvious they're ready to make a high performance chip
BiGG X01
BiGG X01 Сарын өмнө
If people are complaining about that mountain biking video, then they hardly understand what he even talks about in his tech breakdowns. Complaining about quality of a video while mountain biking? They dont know shit and watching Steves videos definitely wont teach them anything since they are too dumb to understand why that video isnt crystal clear in the 1st place. Haters hate, regardless what you do for them.
Philipp Beckonert
Philipp Beckonert Сарын өмнө
: So this means Half-Life 3 = Confirmed ?
Shuaib Abdullah
Shuaib Abdullah Сарын өмнө
Kyle barley said anything
zeveroare R
zeveroare R Сарын өмнө
To differentiate between their H skews.
Alan Garde
Alan Garde Сарын өмнө
I'm glad you made the shout out to Steve's GN video (or extreme podcasting as I like to think of it). I don't get the dislike for it, he has some really interesting thoughts about the whole thing and just talking about it rather than being scripted made it something different. I get why he can't switch off completely, this is what makes him who he is, but damn people, appreciate he spent the four hour drive up there thinking about it so he could talk about it the first moment he actually had a moment when he wasn't having to do other work.
Benito Juarez
Benito Juarez Сарын өмнө
My teacher is freinds with this guy
Pator5 Сарын өмнө
The mobile chips were 4000 guys.
billy bob
billy bob Сарын өмнө
Imma get a 3060 ti if it's actually coming
James Duncan Linch
James Duncan Linch Сарын өмнө
Boy I sense a river of tears, laments and cries coming from Radeon. It always happens until it does not.
Sadman1471 Сарын өмнө
Toooooooo much choice on these graphics cards.... I now don't know what I want to get from these mid range offerings.
DorrisOpen23 Сарын өмнө
I love hearing his child in the background it makes it more real. I love it
SourBogBubble Сарын өмнө
Kyle's video looks rough as hell
RATTL3R186 Сарын өмнө
It was stated months ago that laptops were getting the 4000 series. Of course they're not going to name everything 4000.Segmentation guys geez, it's not a stonehenge mystery.
Rakkarok Сарын өмнө
Those two cards they showed are aimed at the younger generation. I'm 59 and I can see why they made them. In ten years time they will be a collectors item like the Hall Of Fame cards. are now.
Daniel Liljeberg
Daniel Liljeberg Сарын өмнө
Isn't the most likely and easiest explination not that all numbers and stars should align but instead that they wanted to get generational naming in line between APU's and the desktop CPU's? So all laptop and desktop CPU's featuring Zen3 will be 5000-series. Istead of having the APU's, as now, be 4000 but build on the same generation as the 3000 desktop CPU's or when APU's were 3000 and desktop 2000.
shane eslick
shane eslick Сарын өмнө
G'day Paul & Kyle , I am watching this in the future because I was watchin G/N Steve mountain biking when I got the MNpost notification 😁
shane eslick
shane eslick Сарын өмнө
@Tracy E. H 🤔 so you are saying it is rude not to interrupt my interaction with a person to interact with someone else who butts in, very different to what I was taught, it may not be a face to face but I still use the same etiquette when interacting with others
John Mijo
John Mijo Сарын өмнө
GAINWARD: Lets do *KETCHUP* and *MUSTARD* KYLE: I just vomitted in my mouth :p
Grijze Сарын өмнө
rgb sucks - it's for 12 year old schoolgirls
Epic Sloth
Epic Sloth Сарын өмнө
Vodka jug. 1 like.
Jo Boo
Jo Boo Сарын өмнө
FFS - hang on a sec... Why are you morons complaining about how people received Steve's mountain bike video, even calling shame on people - you guys haven't even given it a watch ("oh really, wow - Steve did what...? he was breathless, wow, 100 hour weekly shilling, wow"), but you pour scorn on people who actually have (i.e. the most important part of youtube - THE AUDIENCE). What - you too spend time shilling free "samples" and building outrageous hype on hugely expensive RTX cards (they only cost how much?) that aren't even available and expect us to adore your every utterance... How about you stick it to Nvidia instead of brown-nosing them and instead of berating your audience. How dare you. Losing touch with reality guys... get back on board the reality bus and realise you don't want to neglect and piss off your viewers - who are entitled to have opinions other than eating up every word you feed.
RenegadeCEO Сарын өмнө
if anyone is curious: POSCAP - Conductive Polymer Tantalum Electrolytic Capacitor SP-CAP - Conductive Polymer Aluminium Electrolytic Capacitor. Both are Panasonic names. If you want generic names, they're called Polymer Ta-e-cap and Polymer Al-e-cap, respectively. Or as we called them in my electronics design classes, PTEC (Pee - Tech) and PAEC (Pace :D)
Nob ody
Nob ody Сарын өмнө
Performance is all I care about. I've done the math on how much power my pc uses. It's not anything I have to worry about. A few extra watts doesnt matter.
James Smith
James Smith Сарын өмнө
According to leaks, AMD will up the numbering on Zen 3 CPUs to match the numbering system with their APUs. And that's all there is to that story. All of this because AMD had a Zen + release instead of calling it Zen 2, like they should have. As far as the accuracy of the leak, you can watch Redgamingtech who constantly does videos on leaks. They say this leaker is pretty accurate, but once again you don't know exactly what this CPU is, other than knowing it's at least close to what will be production die.
Tyler Bonts
Tyler Bonts Сарын өмнө
You guys have all the tools, why not remove the background of the virtual person so it looks like you are both in the same space.
light peach
light peach Сарын өмнө
Lyle on 3000 series failures. ...
James Blaine
James Blaine Сарын өмнө
lol if rumors are to be believed they are 5000 series because it will be the first time they have hit 5GHz which is not bad marketing. I think the 4000 series will just be APU's and laptop chips.
PG Plays Video Games
PG Plays Video Games Сарын өмнө
oh god that gaming headset. the mic is ughhh :(
Thready Сарын өмнө
Hi little baby who said hi a few times!
John Mijo
John Mijo Сарын өмнө
The dogs are just shouting out for Pauls Merch Store too ;)
Ivan Aytor
Ivan Aytor Сарын өмнө
Buildzoid master race lol
Dorian Lang
Dorian Lang Сарын өмнө
My modem and router are hooked up to a UPS, I get about 7-8 hours of internet on my iPad and MacBook during a blackout (tots worth it).
OleBrumHonning Сарын өмнө
I think it is because of the cpu name. 3000 on desktop and 4000 on laptop. Now they can use 5000M on laptop or something like that.
fred mcgovern
fred mcgovern Сарын өмнө
Your Straw poll screams FANBOY Mentality
Ivan Aytor
Ivan Aytor Сарын өмнө
If the next gen Ryzen is not actually compatible with B450 that would cost AMD a big chunk of good will.
TheRealSpinster4000 Сарын өмнө
I bought my motherboard for the 7 3700X a while ago before the new amd cpus were announced, and I was waiting to purchase the 7 3700X until I had more money and then once I was about to the new cpus got announced so now I’m considering the 7 5800X because of the price / performance. Will it also be socket AM4? If not I’m skipping it but I’m hoping it is lol
Jessie James
Jessie James Сарын өмнө
My god Bitwit's facial expressions in his thumbnails are so fucking cringey! His face is only 1 of 2 faces I ever wanted to punch. The 2nd person being Sid from Toy Story.
Ts6451 Сарын өмнө
I seem to remember that in the release where AMD promised to offer support for the 400 series chipset, they never referred to a Ryzen 4000 series, but just said Zen 3. I suspect that the reports where it was stated that AMD would support the 4000 series, it was just the reporter assuming that Zen 3 would be named 4000. Since AMD uses the 4000 numbering for their Zen 2 mobile APUs, any Zen 2 desktop APUs they launch in the future might end up using this number series, I suppose.
Dave Unbranded
Dave Unbranded Сарын өмнө
Someone is not drinking anymore. But I am not sure who.
Christopher Tomes
Christopher Tomes Сарын өмнө
Does a company make a ups that you can install in a computer instead of a standard psu?
Dave Bell
Dave Bell Сарын өмнө
Horses for courses, high clocks MLCC, but normal cards POSCAPs ok , as long as it works! Pay more $ if you want an overclocker.
Dave Bell
Dave Bell Сарын өмнө
The TUF has 4 POSCAPS and 2 MLCC
Dave Bell
Dave Bell Сарын өмнө
I use a Hoover every day...but it's a Dyson..😂😂
Carlos Cruz
Carlos Cruz Сарын өмнө
My ears! Someone get kyle
Erwin Mulder
Erwin Mulder Сарын өмнө
5000 makes sense, because they made the error of naming their Zen 1 laptop chips 2000. Then when the 2000 Zen+ desktop chips came along, the laptop chips where 3000, same with Zen2 .. etc. .. so now they got in the pattern of having laptop and desktop chips of the same generation of Zen, having a different number. So now they are breaking the trend and reset everything to 5000, so both the desktop and laptop chips with Zen3 tech have the same number.
Dave Bell
Dave Bell Сарын өмнө
Videocardz includes the PG142 SKU0 as a 3070 ti in agreement with the Galax slides with the doubled memory....
Topside08 Сарын өмнө
he actually called out that he was wanting to do one of the harder trails but couldn't while talking about this
Mac Pot
Mac Pot Сарын өмнө
eure mütter sind live
RojasTKD7 Сарын өмнө
Where have you guys been? the whole 4000 versus 5000 nomenclature has to do with bringing their desktop and laptop naming scheme in line with each other. As we currently have desktop Zen 3 being 3000 series and laptop Zen 2 also being 3000 series. Similar to samsung skipping the note 6 to bring it in line with the S7 line. If this 5000 naming scheme is true, it makes sense.
AlmightyGTR Сарын өмнө
Just trying to understand, did we see TUMAPISAK info ever being wrong or a hoax before? Just sayin, the guy is pretty credible and has always be accurate to what I have seen.
BC-MasterKush-QC Сарын өмнө
Dumb f will stay dumb forever gj for the video guys and Steve that mountain bike video was great :)!
StevenHerbs Сарын өмнө
*Paul stares at Kyle chugging the remainder of his glass* "Oookay. Should be a good show!" 🤣
C0BEX Сарын өмнө
Why don't you guys start using RTX Voice ?
Isaiah Henderson
Isaiah Henderson Сарын өмнө
How dare you insult Pauls dog random stranger on the internet. you bring shame on your family!
Russel Schnugh
Russel Schnugh Сарын өмнө
kyle you are going to get liver failure and gout
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